Love this work saddle as it fits close to the horse, lets you put your leg around them. Recommend for the older horses just due to being smooth leather, you don't get the stick that a rough out gives you. Seat measures 16.5" to the seam but it sits 15.75". Full quarter horse bars on this one. This is my own personal saddle and is not a consignment. Cinch not included. Shipping in the US will run $60. Shipping outside the US is at cost plus insurance. We accept PayPal and credit card.